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27 October 2010 @ 12:37 pm
fb poll  

Are you on facebook?

Yes
85(82.5%)
No
18(17.5%)

Do you have concerns about privacy and/or security on facebook?

lots
30(29.1%)
many
14(13.6%)
some
37(35.9%)
few
15(14.6%)
none
7(6.8%)
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Kcatkcatalyst on October 27th, 2010 04:58 pm (UTC)
Ha! We gave different answers to describe the same thing, I think. I have lots of concerns, which is why I don't post anything private there.
(no subject) - dbang on October 27th, 2010 07:38 pm (UTC) (Expand)
This - drwex on October 27th, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - vito_excalibur on October 28th, 2010 05:45 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - signsoflife on October 27th, 2010 08:37 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - cos on October 28th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC) (Expand)
blkblk on October 27th, 2010 04:40 pm (UTC)
I kind of like facebook, but don't trust it one bit. So I set privacy options I find, but also only put information on it that I don't mind sharing with the world. Kind of like talking to some friends.

Edited at 2010-10-27 04:41 pm (UTC)
Brother Claymore of Desirable Mindfulnesslifecollage on October 27th, 2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, to all of this. Specifically, there's no real-world contact info for me there, and my mom reads my FB so I keep everything mom-friendly.
"Radioactive" Richradioactiverich on October 27th, 2010 04:43 pm (UTC)
I have lots of concerns, which is why I would never put anything remotely sensitive on facebook.
Chance: dork tower number 317miss_chance on October 27th, 2010 06:36 pm (UTC)
Heh! Whereas I never put anything remotely sensitive on facebook, and thus I have very few concerns. :)

hmmm.. that could make an interesting follow-up poll:

() I have lots of concerns, which is why I would never put anything remotely sensitive on facebook.

()I never put anything remotely sensitive on facebook, and thus I have very few concerns.
(no subject) - totient on October 27th, 2010 07:01 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - signsoflife on October 27th, 2010 08:37 pm (UTC) (Expand)
DancingWolfGrrldancingwolfgrrl on October 27th, 2010 04:52 pm (UTC)
My take on it is that Facebook kind of sucks about privacy, but also that this is the internet, which...well, kind of sucks about privacy. Having professional contacts on Facebook is slightly helpful to me, actually, because it reminds me that whatever I put up is basically free for public consumption!
vito_excalibur on October 28th, 2010 05:46 am (UTC)
This is true for me as well.
Renata Piperlyonesse on October 27th, 2010 04:59 pm (UTC)
my info is all false, and my page is related to only one topic in my life, and i have two friends who know who i actually am. so there's no information there that i care about, or that connects to other available information about me.
evolution, and some other stuffjacflash on October 27th, 2010 05:09 pm (UTC)
I don't worry a whole lot, though I did -- but I scrubbed my Facebook profile fairly early on. There's nothing there now that I wouldn't mind cow-orkers or readers (of my work stuff) or employers or random passers-by seeing, and there won't be.
harimad on October 27th, 2010 05:18 pm (UTC)
I'm barely on Facebook. My name is false, my profile empty, all known privacy options enabled, no information or posts about me up there at all including no joining professional or alum groups. I use it to read about others and I opened an account only reluctantly.
B.K. DeLongbkdelong on October 27th, 2010 05:28 pm (UTC)
I have many privacy concerns. I've just learned how to check and tweak as many of the profile and application privacy settings as I can. When I also "add a friend" I stick them into several "allowed" friend lists which I use in the "privacy settings" detailing what I'm comfortable with them seeing on my profile.

That being said, there's very little that's private about me on the Web so I do it mostly to protect my "contacts" from stupid apps and to keep FB from screwing with my details and information without my permission.
lazyzlazyz on October 27th, 2010 05:30 pm (UTC)
Ffunny, I just found a woman thru Facebook who bounced a debit card on me for a bracelet 8 years ago so i wrote her to ask for the $195 of the bracelet back. Yay, Facebook.
And what they said...
Spike: Tempest - Avoid Spikesspike on October 27th, 2010 06:01 pm (UTC)
What you post ANYWHERE is public, period.



This is not about FaceBook. Or Twitter. Or LJ. Or MySpace. Or Flickr. Or Picasa. Or Usenet (DejaNews, anyone?) Or IRC. Or mailing lists. It's about the whole freaking Internet.

Anything you share anywhere on the Internet can become public, period. Anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to sell you something. And if you've been duped into believing otherwise, well, you should complain loudly and directly to the person who fell for whichever old ruse was trotted out to gain their trust.


Do I have concerns about Facebook? You bet. Same question for LJ? Same answer. Flickr? Same answer. Twitter? MySpace? Usenet? E-mail lists? Same answer, same answer, same answer, same answer: if you post it, it might as well already be completely public.

People pointing the finger at "FaceBook!!!" have already missed the point.

And as I've said before, "You have every reason to be outraged, but at this point, you've got no excuse for being surprised.."
Jim Pjim_p on October 27th, 2010 06:38 pm (UTC)
Re: What you post ANYWHERE is public, period.
Word!

I've been online for a long time (like, back when it was called "ARPANET", spam was verboten, and any user could be tracked through their employer or institution). I've always acted under the assumption that ANYTHING I put online could conceivably be seen by my spouse, my mother, my employer, or my worst enemy. I don't necessarily keep a low profile, but I'm always prepared for anything I put up to come back to me in a less-than-desirable manner.
Re: What you post ANYWHERE is public, period. - dbang on October 27th, 2010 07:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: What you post ANYWHERE is public, period. - cos on October 28th, 2010 02:38 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: What you post ANYWHERE is public, period. - veek on October 27th, 2010 08:37 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Re: What you post ANYWHERE is public, period. - cos on October 28th, 2010 02:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
David Policardpolicar on October 27th, 2010 07:03 pm (UTC)
To be clear, I have no concerns not because I believe FB is secure, but because I assume it isn't and that doesn't concern me.

Anyone who wants to see what I do on FB is welcome to do so; anyone who more than casually assumes that what I seem to have done on FB was actually authenticated is mistaken to do so. If I wanted security, I wouldn't use FB.

(ETA: Yeah, as others have said more cleverly.)

Edited at 2010-10-27 07:04 pm (UTC)
sabriel: mama_sabriel_ on October 27th, 2010 08:53 pm (UTC)
FB
My FB account is filtered in many layers, and mostly very locked down.
HOWEVER,
I still only post really personal or private stuff here, where only a few people are friended, and it is STILL locked down and friends only.
born from jets!!!: corsaircatness on October 27th, 2010 09:04 pm (UTC)
I really kind of love and hate facebook. It's a lightweight gateway to be hilarious with new and old friends and acquaintances with whom you maybe want to have a closer relationship. It also makes it incredibly easy to go RAH RAH RAH in a public way to my friends who rocked my world recently, and for that I think it's the best thing ever. "I think this person is THE SHIT" is a sentiment that I believe should be shouted from rooftops. :)

On the other hand, when people expect me to be *available* there, it's really noxious, even though private info about me isn't really a concern of mine (my profile is my stage persona). A comment by me on someone's wall post is not the same as 'reading all available content while visiting fb', because it's frankly impossible, and not displayed in any kind of useful way. Just because I said, "that was the funniest picture ever" does not mean I even saw what's been posted on my *own wall*. The user interface just isn't that good, to be honest.

I also really loathe that people try to contact me for business related things on fb, because fb is not reliable or predictable in how it delivers content, and also... it's a social networking toy, NOT a business medium. I can't sort or store anything sanely, so it's useless for managing business communication.

Edited at 2010-10-27 09:05 pm (UTC)
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Coscos on October 28th, 2010 02:35 am (UTC)
I was going to comment that your second question is vague and people could interpret it in wildly different ways, but then I happened to skim the comments first and immediately found people interpreting it in wildly different ways :)